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PostSubject: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:28 am

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Team 1 WON




I want to thank you all for the fantastic time last night for the 20th UHC event Smiley

Here i have some screenshots and a teampic of our team, marvelous job done everybody!
Im looking forward till next saturday!




i dont know how to make a breakdown so somebody else can do that?
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:44 am

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...Luck off course.. And a lot of mining. regular mining: "Branch mining consists of mining out side tunnels from an access shaft to expose as many blocks as possible with a minimum of blocks removed." < That is not what i did, I dug down to around Y:11 and started a maze of tunnels (2x1) in different directions ...

Ofc ... I am stupid . That first picture is definetly NOT branch mining ... how could I even doubt at it ...  Super Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:52 am

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...Luck off course.. And a lot of mining. regular mining: "Branch mining consists of mining out side tunnels from an access shaft to expose as many blocks as possible with a minimum of blocks removed." < That is not what i did, I dug down to around Y:11 and started a maze of tunnels (2x1) in different directions ...

Ofc ... I am stupid . That first picture is definetly NOT branch mining ... how could I even doubt at it ...   Super Happy 

How could it be a branch if there's only 1 tunnel Wink
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:41 pm

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...Luck off course.. And a lot of mining. regular mining: "Branch mining consists of mining out side tunnels from an access shaft to expose as many blocks as possible with a minimum of blocks removed." < That is not what i did, I dug down to around Y:11 and started a maze of tunnels (2x1) in different directions ...

Ofc ... I am stupid . That first picture is definetly NOT branch mining ... how could I even doubt at it ...   Super Happy 
We did it to find caves?
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:51 pm

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...Luck off course.. And a lot of mining. regular mining: "Branch mining consists of mining out side tunnels from an access shaft to expose as many blocks as possible with a minimum of blocks removed." < That is not what i did, I dug down to around Y:11 and started a maze of tunnels (2x1) in different directions ...

Ofc ... I am stupid . That first picture is definetly NOT branch mining ... how could I even doubt at it ...   Super Happy 
We did it to find caves?

That's against the rules though? We gathered that you could ONLY go in caves and mine to sounds. You have there evidentially gone mining for diamonds aka branch mining/strip mining.
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:25 pm

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...Luck off course.. And a lot of mining. regular mining: "Branch mining consists of mining out side tunnels from an access shaft to expose as many blocks as possible with a minimum of blocks removed." < That is not what i did, I dug down to around Y:11 and started a maze of tunnels (2x1) in different directions ...

Ofc ... I am stupid . That first picture is definetly NOT branch mining ... how could I even doubt at it ...   Super Happy 
We did it to find caves?

That's against the rules though? We gathered that you could ONLY go in caves and mine to sounds. You have there evidentially gone mining for diamonds aka branch mining/strip mining.
Nope. I ALWAYS said mining straight to find caves is allowed.
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:49 pm

Mining straight to find cave is ok , but not mining 50+ blocks . 10 blocks should be maximal distance to mine in straight line . If you can't find or hear any sign of cave , then exit that area and search for another one untill you find cave . If we all do same thing, mine in straight line that would technically be branch mining ;-)

How did I found Diamonds ? After we cleared all caves , we started to dig down towards bedrock , staircase shape untill we hit it . If you get lucky, you get Diamonds , just like I did . There were no branch mining in any case from our side ;-) At least not 30+ long tunnels xD
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:04 pm

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Mining straight to find cave is ok , but not mining 50+ blocks . 10 blocks should be maximal distance to mine in straight line . If you can't find or hear any sign of cave , then exit that area and search for another one untill you find cave . If we all do same thing, mine in straight line that would technically be branch mining ;-)
That doesn't make any sense. Leaving the straight line area to find another one would be called branch mining, since you are tunneling over and over again. What's so wrong on tunnelling one straight line? I always did that on all UHC that strip mine wasn't allowed. Of course you still find ores in the way, but that's still not branch mining.

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How did I found Diamonds ? After we cleared all caves , we started to dig down towards bedrock , staircase shape untill we hit it . If you get lucky, you get Diamonds , just like I did . There were no branch mining in any case from our side ;-) At least not 30+ long tunnels xD
Where's the 30+ tunnels Mefiles?
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:29 pm

First picture ? tongue

So, you guys won't mind if I get down to Y11 next time and start to mine 500 blocks long tunnel in 4 dirrections (N , S , W , E) right ? =P
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:36 pm

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Mining straight to find cave is ok , but not mining 50+ blocks . 10 blocks should be maximal distance to mine in straight line . If you can't find or hear any sign of cave , then exit that area and search for another one untill you find cave . If we all do same thing, mine in straight line that would technically be branch mining ;-)

How did I found Diamonds ? After we cleared all caves , we started to dig down towards bedrock , staircase shape untill we hit it . If you get lucky, you get Diamonds , just like I did . There were no branch mining in any case from our side ;-) At least not 30+ long tunnels xD

I think we have a different definition of "branch mining". It is called that way because you have 1 base tunnel and different branches along that tunnel. What I (we) dit was 1 tunnel in different directions. So it's just luck to find diamonds since you're mining in any optimal way, just a randomised tunnel Wink cave exploring is way faster than this method as long as the cave is on diamond depth, since you're covering a lot more ground Smiley
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:44 pm

Next UHC Rule: No mining tongue
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:06 pm

What's the point of UHC if you spent 5 hours in cave digging tunnel just to get Diamonds ? UHC is PvP based survival game in wich last man standing wins the game . It's not "I got more Diamonds" type of challenge .

Digging straight tunnel at Y11 means you searched for Diamonds and ignored rules . Also , for real ... spending 5 hours digging tunnels is pointless and time wasting since you can get all resources from caves, like you said your self . In that time we could have 2 UHC's ... If yo ucan't find any good cave , search arround above ground and you will find it, just like we did .

We need time limit of 2 hours . If some one can't get iron armor and sword in that time , then he needs to try harder .

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One more idea for rules , you can only use Diamonds to get Pickaxe and Enchanting table , you can not make armor or swords . That sounds like fair thing and no one will have advantage ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:04 pm

I don't actually think diamonds make THAT much of a difference that you're making it out to be tongue
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:20 pm

Personally Files, we would have won if we stayed at our base and continued caving to find diamonds for the entire team. The other team had an advantage because they caved more and found diamonds, thus like 90% of at least one piece diamonds armor on them and we only have iron armor. We just mined and bread chickens for like an hour in a half, and then went to spawn to wait for another 2 hours waiting in the fort. We have more people then they had and it gave us a bigger advantage over them with numbers. It feels like you want to rush head on against a team who took more effort and time to get resource and then we lost in the proses. Yes you have a terrible computer and won't let you on TS while on Minecraft, it's just a game and move on. We can win next time, it's not the end of the world. Smiley

Besides, I almost beaten Lu in one of the UHC if it wasn't one of those zombies. And it was just the two of us then.
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:42 pm

Kirby just said everything tongue

Also, Friday's UHC went really bad for our team, and yours was way stronger, and we didn't complain did we? Smiley
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:59 pm

You were the one who decided to make a Chicken farm. I and Mefiles went and got resources. I gathered apples so we could get crossroadangels up from 1/2 a heart. I did my best where we were and would have been ideal to go mining somewhere else but personally I was too impatient to keep mining as I was getting bored waiting around for something to happen where as we where actually doing something around spawn. The other reason we didn't win is because our tactics weren't that great and people aren't that accurate with a bow. They had more people than us in the end or equal, I'm not sure.
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:00 am

Friday UHC was capture the flag thing ... 90% of us played it for first time tongue

Kirby , we stick to the rules and did not make any kind of tunnels , did we ? I did say lets gather some chickens and kill all the cows you can see for food and get trees for apples , did I ? We all got to mines to get resources , some of us did take lots of damage .. we did . You can't stay all the time at same place for 3 or 5 hours and only mine for diamonds , that's why I wanted to get move in different location , so we did . Btw, as we moved, not even 50 blocks from where we were I found 10+ cows wich means no one even was up there . You guys did not have to listen to me , did you ? =P
Did I tell any one we will stay there at spawn and that we need to make fort ? No . I did not .
Did I searched for Gold and found enough for 2 extra golden apples while you all were up in that fort ? Yes , I did . Did I tell some one in chat what to do and to him/her tell every one else trough TS what to do ? Yes .. did any one do anything ? Yes, you all sent me message "what to do next" while some one already tould you what to do ... Sorry guys, but I am not team leader just like I said before . I know how to survive by miself . We spent half time just typing messages to each other, while other team did not have any kind of TS problem and they talked normaly . That was not fair .

Btw... SurtrBrann was on 1st team . There were teams of 6 .
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:03 am

It's probably best to not include people who aren't going to talk in team UHC games then to avoid communication issues.. o . o
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:04 am

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We never said you couldn't make any tunnels, branch mining doesn't mean you cannot make a straight tunnel.

But I understand your frustrations, I was in a game that no one listened to me either and obviously lost, but I never mentioned it though tongue
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:17 am

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We never said you couldn't make any tunnels, branch mining doesn't mean you cannot make a straight tunnel.

But I understand your frustrations, I was in a game that no one listened to me either and obviously lost, but I never mentioned it though tongue

Username was in our team too Razz hes been forgotten in the breakdown Smiley
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:23 am

Ooops  Shy fixed
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:01 am

You guys should set up a set of rules for all UHCs, unless stated otherwise, so no confusion in what you can/can not do happens.
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:56 pm

I did not say it's bad thing to have people in team that don't have microphone . I was mostly upset , and still think that is not fait to have 1 team that can talk with each other and other team must type in chat with each other .. that's not fair .
And some of you were saying that we should do 1 team where all people talk and other where all people type ? Sorry but wtf ? What do you think who will win xD .. people that can talk and say "hey, I see them!" while shifting or team that must type while unshifted and while he is typing he get killed xD
Most of our team has problems with TeamSpeak , some times we could not even hear each other, becose there was no sound .. I am mostly sad becose my PC ... I had to restart it 2 times and it freezed couple of times untill I switched off TS , after that we went in bad situations .

When you do teams next time , try to make them more balanced .. don't just take few people that are good at PvP or that you know better for your team , then ofcourse you will always win .

Also , I will still push for time limit . Becose hiding in caves for 5 hours is not how you play UHC ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:08 pm

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And some of you were saying that we should do 1 team where all people talk and other where all people type ? Sorry but wtf ?
The person who said that was trolling.

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We made them balanced. Kenny and Redstone aren't good at pvp, but they made a really good team work, that's what you guys lacked. Surtr was good, but he died, you cannot blame him for that. Killer was just slacking off, and you blame us for that?
You cannot point fingers, the teams were pretty balanced, you just did not a good job this time. Same lack of team work happened on friday's UHC and I am not pointing fingers to anyone.

And how is our fault that your toaster cannot handle TS? tongue I know it's not fair, but it's no one's fault either. Like I said we will install factions next tiem so you don't have to whisper.
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PostSubject: Re: UHC XX - Breakdown and Results Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:45 pm

I did not point to any one :-/ And last time I lagged with factions too much , so I'll pass that UHC . As I said , I will only play either solo or in teams of 2 :-P
Or , you can have big teams , but I won't be leader and I won't tell any one what to do .

Also , I said we all had issues with TeamSpeak in our team, not just me :-(
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